My Response to the NYC Pastor

Source: giphy.com My face when I read NYC Pastor's "advice"
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My face when I read NYC Pastor’s “advice”

A viral blog post written by a blogger named NYC Pastor has many people’s panties in a twist, myself included. In a nutshell, the guy appears to be quite narrow-minded, to put it kindly. To be blunt and more specific, he could be appropriately identified as a sexist.

The post in question is titled “10 WOMEN CHRISTIAN MEN SHOULD NOT MARRY,” and the all-caps were the author’s doing, not mine. So by just reading the title, we have already identified the first problem. But if you thought all-caps was the most obnoxious sin the NYC Pastor could commit, think again.

I read the post and laughed. And laughed. And laughed some more. Seriously, give it a read if you need a good joke. While I was appalled at the author’s outdated and offensive views towards women, it was still an amusing read because of its absurdity.

In his introduction, NYC Pastor states that he wrote another post of the ten men Christian women should not marry. Hoping that this dude’s offensive views knew no gender, I took a look and discovered that I was wrong. Even while discussing men that are “not worthy” of Christian women, the author still manages to bash women in the process, making sure that women are to blame for everything. Seriously, he went above and beyond to offend any woman who stumbles upon his blog.

After I pulled myself together, I decided that my thoughts cannot be limited to a paragraph left in the comment section on NYC Pastor’s post (of which there are 1,105 comments total). Instead, my thoughts deserve an entire blog post, listing my responses to every one of NYC Pastor’s 10 “reasons.” Here we go:

1. The Unbeliever

I get it. Some Christians believe that they should marry other Christians. But honestly, is that anyone else’s business besides the people involved in the relationship? If they’re happy, they’re happy. End of story.

2. The Divorcee

NYC Pastor claims that Christians can only divorce if their partner cheated within the marriage. Sooo, domestic violence doesn’t exist or what? Emotional abuse is perfectly acceptable? A woman should just put up with it, because if she divorces the rotten, good-for-nothing jerk, she’s a “sinner” and not worthy of having a healthy second marriage? You, sir, are an asshole.

3. The Older Woman

What defines an “older” woman, according to the NYC Pastor? Two years. He cites some supposed “research” to back up his claim that marrying a woman one to three years older means men are 53% more likely to divorce their wives. Does he realize that regardless of age, socio-economic status, and religion, that over half of all marriages fail anyway? But the other reason he believes men shouldn’t marry “older” women? Why of course, it’s because men were created first, and have authority over women! Duh! He even leaves us with a beautiful Bible verse which states that women are “to remain quiet.” Nope, that wasn’t a typo. I double-checked.

4. The Feminist

Ohhh no he di’n’t! I’m rolling up my sleeves as we speak, and about to throw some punches in the form of written words. Basically, the Pastor regurgitates some Bible verses about how women were created “for” men, how we live to serve men, get on our knees to kiss their feet, all that sexist bullshit.

No.

Hate to break it to you, sweetheart, but no woman was born to serve you. She has her own life, and she doesn’t care about you. After reading this blog post, I’m sure most women will not give you the time of day besides giving you a piece of our minds. You think you can dish it out, but can you take it?

Women have been oppressed by assholes who spouted the same words you did, and we stand up against these lies you try to shove down the throats of your fellow Christians. Funny how you worship these lies that make the lives of men more convenient and important than women’s. That isn’t a coincidence.  Without feminism, women would still be second-class citizens, duct tape around our mouths, our wrists tied with rope. We have a voice, and we are people.

5. The Immodest-Dresser

Let me get this straight: if a man gawks at a woman dressed “sexy,” it’s the woman’s fault for the man objectifying her because she’s dressed that way? Ah, thank you for slut shaming women everywhere, Mr. Pastor. I’m willing to bet you also blame rape victims because “they were asking for it.”

6. The Gossiper/Slanderer

Yes, gossiping and slander are not desired qualities to have in any relationship. However, bashing women everywhere in a blog post is not necessarily the definition of “wisdom,” now is it?

7. The Childbirth Avoider

Unrelated: It’s amusing how he titled this reason “The Childbirth Avoider” as if you’re avoiding a cold. You better make sure to take your Vitamin C and wash your hands frequently: everyone’s catching The Childbirth!

NYC Pastor’s advice: if you don’t want kids, don’t get married. Period. Marriage isn’t about spending your lives with someone you love. It’s about poppin’ out them babies. We must use our reproductive organs and have babies, or suffer the wrath of God! Or, you know, just have a happy life without kids, if that’s how you roll. Either one.

8. The Wander-Luster (seriously, this guy has a hyphen problem)

Family vacations: Good.

Traveling the world: Bad.

The dude has the audacity to say that women who are frequently “out of the home” are to be avoided. Why? Because, according to Pastor, women who travel outside of their front door are “loud…busybodies who talk nonsense.” Oh sorry, he was quoting the Bible there. My bad. But seriously? Women who travel are gaining experiences, knowledge, and meeting new people. This guy claims that any opportunity in which the woman isn’t serving a man and is out of a man’s control is a sin.

9. The Career-first Woman

Don’t worry, women can work! Phew, I was worried there for a second. But women must also raise her children at the same time. Women should not make more money than their husband’s, because their penises will shrivel up (Book of Leviticus). Women should be overjoyed to quit their jobs and stay at home, because men cannot stay at home or raise children. Their penises will shrivel up, and their flesh will burn (Book of Job).

10. The Devotion-less Woman (again with the hyphens!)

This point isn’t nearly as disgusting as the rest of NYC Pastor’s post. A Christian wanting to find someone who is devoted to his or her religion is understandable. However, just like in the first point, if a couple is happy, it’s no one else’s business. I thought the Pastor said women can’t be busybodies? Oh, but it’s okay if men are? That makes perfect sense. Men are superior, after all, especially pricks like NYC Pastor. He knows what he’s talking about.

There you have it, my snarky response to a blog post that made me feel more snarky than usual. It’s because of men like this that women need feminism, and will always need it. We are not done, we will not be quiet. We will raise our voices even louder to shut you up, NYC Pastor. Shut up and sit down.

125 Comments

  1. I know the Bible pretty well, and I don’t remember anything like that (although there are a few sexist things in the Bible.) Point being, men like him twist the Bible’s words and use it as an excuse to force women into submissivity. Disgusting. I approve of your snarkyness.

    1. I’m glad you approve! Yes, I agree completely that he’s twisting the Bible’s words. He’s taking things out of context and trying to claim that women need to be a certain way.

  2. Wow, seriously cannot believe this. These reasons are ridiculous and ancient. This pastor does not seem to understand that women are human beings and have just as much purpose as men and want to have be fulfilled outside of the men in their life. It is so sad that he is so against things like a woman who travels. Without travel and exploration we will never have empathy for other humans. Maybe that’s why he doesn’t understand women, hasn’t traveled outside of his home and church to meet them and interact with them. Great responses to his points!

    1. Isn’t he crazy? I couldn’t believe it either! When I read his post, at first I thought it was satire. When I realized he was serious, I knew I had to write a post about it. His point that “good Christian women” shouldn’t travel was the point that angered me the most. He honestly thinks that learning about the world and experiencing other cultures is a bad thing?!? I do agree that he doesn’t understand women. He doesn’t know us, and he never will! 🙂

      1. The “travel” thing makes sense from the perspective that control is a critical element of belief, I think. Extremists grapple for religion to make sense of a world in which they feel out of control, and in turn embrace the misogyny so frequently expressed in religions as a way to extend that control to their environment. Similarly, to reference the other post of yours I read today, believers are so distressed by non-believers because any inconsistency in their religious framework is disorienting a a very personal level.

      2. That’s a good point, and I agree. The pastor’s advice on travel was just another way for his religion to control people. Or at least his view on his religion.

  3. Yeah I remember seeing this one, and I love your response!

    “Men cannot stay at home or raise children. Their penises will shrivel up, and their flesh will burn (Book of Job).”

    My husband stays home with the kids, and I can assure you that his penis has not shriveled up. I’m sorry – TMI?
    😛

  4. This is funny! Sad, but funny although I’m with the guy on #6. Not a trait I want in anybody close to me. I hadn’t heard of this yet so I thought you might be joking, lol. It does not surprise that someone is spouting off BS (I think I’m suppose to capitalize that) in 2015. Great post!

  5. Just goes to show that at heart, there’s precious little difference between Christianity and Islam. Both Fascistic ideologies. The thing that’s most worrying is that dangerous half-wits like this guy have influence over other (often vulnerable people).

  6. This “man of God’s” post not only explains why women need feminism; it demonstrates why men need feminism too. Any man who would take this to heart clearly has a very small view of the universe, which is the opposite of the view that healthy spirituality is supposed to give you.

  7. First off, I love the tone of your post. I have never met you but I feel like I know you because you personally just comes through so clearly. Secondly, this guy is a selfish, uncultured douche. He clearly doesn’t get out much. I shouldn’t put him down. But it’s hard not to when he is so narrowminded! #8 particularly pisses me off (even though all the numbers do). Like what the HELL is wrong with traveling!!!! Not sure if NYC Pastor is an actual pastor or if it’s just a penname, but can you IMAGINE what his sermons are like?!!

    1. Thank you! I completely agree about this dude being selfish and uncultured. I couldn’t believe he thinks women shouldn’t travel!! That was one of his points that angered me the most.

      I don’t even want to KNOW what he’d be preaching to people if he was a real pastor! He’s filling people’s minds with disgusting and offensive perspectives.

  8. I love how guys take things out of context when quoting the Bible to their advantage. And make their own conclusions. If you ever read anything about Him, it is almost always about moderation and common sense, all of which this guy is clearly not using when he writes this garbage.

  9. Oh my. At least you included some humor in your response 🙂 You are more kind than I would be if I posted about this.

    I discovered you though #SundayBlogShare. Awesome blogging style you have there.

    1. Thank you! The Sunday Blog Share is an awesome way to meet other bloggers.

      It was fun writing this post. I knew I had to add some humor in there because when I read NYC Pastor’s original post, I thought it was a joke. It was hard not to just be snarky and rip the guy’s arguments to shreds though…

      1. Yes. That is always a temptation. If it really reads like a joke, though, no need to go there.

        btw, I should mention that a I know quite a few feminists and we get together on Fridays, have one person write a post, and everyone else chatters on the thread. We do it often 🙂

      2. I’ll drop you a link after I am done working Twitter for the day 🙂 The core of that group is friends I’ve built a lot of trust with over the last year, but always, always looking to expand that circle when I run into people who seem interested and blog well.

  10. Wow. Just… wow. I am so many things on the list of “don’ts” that I’ll never marry his version of a “good Christian.” I feel… relieved.

  11. Here is that link I promised you. Had a moment of panic earlier because I cannot find this thread anywhere in my comment archive. Fortunately, I thought of using the reader’s “Posts I commented on” or whatever.

    These are all friends listed here. Part Time Monster is my sister and we coordinate our social media stuff a bit. The rest of them are bloggers I am not affiliated with, necessarily, but we communicate all over the internet and have been for awhile. Victim to Charm is up this week. Methinks you might enjoy some Victim to Charm. She’s always funny and smart on her blog, no matter what else she has going on. https://justgeneo.wordpress.com/2015/01/23/brace-yourself-feministfriday-is-coming/

  12. I wonder what his opinion would be about a Christian woman who traveled the world doing missionary work? Probably something along the lines of “Doing god’s work is good, but she oughta stay home and let the man do it while she raises those babies.” He’s irrational even within the limits of his own (incredibly limited) religion.

    1. Brilliant point! I never thought of that! And I’m sure that’s what he would say. He’d say, “If the work she’s doing is keeping her away from her home and kids, she needs to get back home.” He’s completely off his rocker.

  13. 😀 HILARIOUS!!!!

    I had read that bullshit post around a week or so back and was appalled. I am so glad you came up with such an excellent piece in response to it! Good going! 🙂

  14. This is obviously a clan of feminist groupies patting each other on the backs for their “enlightened” view of the world, at the expense of a man, who’s advice you all desperately need. Have any of you ever considered that you may all be so bitchy and obnoxious BECAUSE you’ve spent your young lives obsessed with proving Christians wrong rather than listening to their advice? Radical, second and third-wave feminism sucks the dignity and humanity out of women’s young lives and you are PERFECT examples of why it should NEVER be adopted as a lifestyle! Get over yourselves!

    1. Hahaha, thanks sweetie! This is an eloquent, kind comment. I’m sorry, you’re not a Christian, are you? I thought Christians were supposed to be loving and kind to others? 🙂

      P.S. There’s nothing radical about equal rights for women.

      Have a nice day. 🙂

      1. Being a non-Christian is your first problem. It nearly dooms you to a life of strife. Secondly, feminism’s drive for “equal rights” has NOTHING to do with “equality” for women and everything to do with inequality for men. Read my post, “Longform Essay – Why Does the False Pretext of “Equality” Diminish, Rather than Increase the Value of Women?” The entire feminist farce has been a disaster for women. Read my post, “Short Essay – Radical Feminism’s True Legacy – Being Single, Sidelined and Sixty Sucks!” You are young enough to still change course. I hope and pray you do, before it’s too late.

      2. Where have I ever written that I’m not a Christian? I never said what religion I am, or if I have one.

        I’ve stumbled on your blog before, and honestly, there is a lot of hate you spew about women in general.

        Actually yes, feminism IS about gender equality. As a woman, I would LOVE to be paid equally, be treated as a human being and NOT as a sex object by society, and be taken seriously. These are all things that feminism strives for. Equality.

        I think you need to read up on what feminism is before you attack it, and attack other people. You are completely insulting people you know nothing about.

      3. You don’t have to state specifically that you are a non-Christian, it is obvious from the content of your blog.
        And “hate” is a harsh word to describe well-intentioned advice, given by someone who’s “been there, done that”. Someone who knows much better than you, where you’re headed and the deliberate disaster your “radical feminist lifestyle” will lead you to. Your reaction to my comment is symptomatic of the chronic negativity that radical feminism produces in its adherents. It will destroy your life.
        Next, you are obviously a disciple of radical feminism and unwittingly regurgitating the same feminist BS that has been disproven time and time again. ” Equal pay” does not exist because the men are holding women back. It is because, thank God, women, of their own volition, choose to leave the workforce to raise their children. This, and only this, tilts the income scale in men’s favor.
        Being treated like a human being? Behaving like one goes along way to accomplishing that goal and being a bitchy feminist will kill that chance for you.
        Sex object? Come on! Radical, second-wave feminists created the “sexual revolution.” They have been demanding equal levels of promiscuity for women for 45 years! YOU got what THEY asked for.
        I’m completely insulting people I know nothing about? Hardly. Radical feminists are all alike and I can pick them out from a mile away. I would say you needed to take your own advice when you laughably tried to demean the pastor’s well-intentioned advice. Maybe you wouldn’t look like such a fool at the moment if you had taken your own advice.
        And don’t give me that crap about, aren’t Christians supposed to be nice to people. I don’t buy that when it comes to radical feminists because they are “possessed” and you CAN’T kill them with kindness. You can only hope to shock them back to life.
        Again, good luck with your life’s journey. Only with God’s help, not some radical, lesbian, feminist academic’s “help”, will you ever find true peace and happiness in your life.

      4. Wow, you are quite angry. I think you need to relax a bit. Breathe, do yoga, something to calm yourself.

        First off, I don’t know what on my blog makes it “obvious” that I’m “not a Christian,” because I rarely ever discuss religion on my blog, period.

        Women earn 70 cents to the man’s dollar, and that includes working the exact same job. It has nothing to do with women leaving the workforce. That is a myth.

        You don’t have to say you know better than me because you don’t know me. I don’t know you, so I don’t assume to know your education or life experiences. So it would be wonderful if you wouldn’t judge my knowledge and claim you “know better.” Age has nothing to with wisdom or knowledge.

        You claim that feminists don’t “act” like human beings? How so? And you claim that it’s their fault for not being respected? That’s pretty awful to say.

        Sexual objectification and sexual freedom are two different things, honey. Women can have the right to sexual freedom and still be treated with respect at the same time. But treating women like objects for men to use for sex and using this message constantly in the media? Not okay.

        You are judging. Judging me, judging women you don’t know, judging men, all because you despise feminism and think any woman who is a feminist is a “radical, lesbian, feminist academic.” Hate to break it to you, but I’m not radical, not a lesbian, and not an academic of feminism. So your judgements were all wrong about me.

        Good try though. 🙂

      5. My dear, you are a lost cause. You are so full of feminist BS you can’t think straight. My only suggestion would be to start reading through my blog. Maybe you’ll learn a thing or two. Ta ta.

      6. Haha, yup, a lost cause. Gee, sorry that I stand up for women’s equal rights and believe in equality for all people. Silly me.

        I won’t judge your blog before I read it. But I’m hoping it’s not this type of stuff. You just ranting about the evils of feminism, how women are to blame for societal problems, or how women need to be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen while their husbands are working.

        Great talk. Maybe you’ll let go of some of your anger and realize that women are not evil for wanting equality. Maybe they’re just smart. 😉

        Bu-bye. 🙂

    2. I’m your age. So let’s discuss this age for age. Rather than dismissing intelligent young people in the most patronising way possible.

      I’ve worked in construction, and still do. Point scoring over and done with?

      Seriously, why does a woman need a man’s advice? Where on earth does that come from?

      Bitchy, obnoxious? What sort of words are those?

      Why do you shout in capitals? Do you think people won’t listen to your asinine message?

      We need young people who can think. Preferably ones who aren’t indoctrinated by a religion.

      I still want to know, why, I desperately need the advice of a man?

      Maybe to tell me the difference between who’s and whose?

      1. Yup! For her assuming feminists are angry and evil, she sounded quite angry. She thinks Christians are superior, but I thought Christians believed in love and kindness? She’s not behaving like a Christian…

      2. Then you have no excuse for being a radical, second-wave feminist other then a deep-seated need, to be right all the time, even when you’re not.

      3. This “radical, second-wave feminist” thing seems to be your favorite phrase. It’s so funny because we haven’t done anything radical in the least. We’re just, you know, normal women who just happen to believe that women should have equal rights. Woooow, what evil, radical, second-wave feminists we are! 😉

      4. FYI. There’s a huge difference btw. 1st and 2nd and 3rd-wave feminists. Only 2nd and 3rd are considered radical to the extreme because their behavior, thinking and morals are radically at odd with 2,000 years of traditional female priorities based on the tenets of Christianity, which unlike feminism, produced some of the most wonderful women on earth.

      5. I am not a feminist who believes she is superior to men. So if that’s your assumption, you’re assumption is false. Which Christian women are wonderful, and more wonderful than the women who fought for the right to vote, for the right to own property, to open our own bank accounts, to have jobs?

      6. None of that was ever deliberately denied to women by men. It was all just part of the patriarchal culture of caring spawn by Christianity.

      7. It wasn’t “deliberately denied to women by men.” So what, they just FORGOT to give when their rights to all these things? For a couple hundred years? That makes perfect sense. I don’t know what this “patriarchal culture of caring” is that you’re taking about. I’m assuming you’re being sarcastic?

      8. No, I’m not. I can’t spend the day opening your eyes to the blatant lies behind the ideology of radical feminism. You must read through my blog. Read my post, “Longform Essay- How Did “Patriarchy” Become a Dirty Word?” for the answer to your question.

      9. I’m not reading your posts. I skimmed some of them already, and honestly, your blog is so spiteful. All your posts are a bunch of judgmental rants about how any women who isn’t married and having kids by the time she’s 20 is a “radical, second-wave, lesbian, nasty bitch.”

        Why would I read your posts to find information when your posts are pure bias? I’d go to an unbiased source like a history website.

        You just seem really angry with any woman who appears to be happy on her own. You can have that, too. But you have to let go of your anger.

      10. If that’s the best you can do. Your done. I’m having dinner with my wonderful husband in a lovely romantic restaurant. What are you doing? Checkmate.

      11. Change you from being a nasty bitch? If he hasn’t, you should have because everybody, including you, suffers with your lousy attitude. Even total strangers. Good luck with that, because your time is getting short and you are deliberately making it shorter with all the self-inflicted negativity.

      12. You’re so sweet. Do you really think you’re a good Christian if you go around calling a stranger a “bitch” on the internet? I don’t think Jesus or God would be too happy about that. It’s very spiteful and unnecessary.

        Time is running out to what? Find a man? Oh no, the clock is ticking! I better go find me a man! If I don’t get married by 30 I’ll be alone forever! 🙂

      13. Time is not running out. A person can always find happiness throughout his or her life. If you think happiness equals marriage, then you’re mistaken. Not everyone finds happiness that way, and you need to be happy before that anyway.

        I don’t think calling someone a “bitch” works. If you think this is “working,” then you have some things to fix in your life. 🙂

      14. In traveling, writing, friends, family, myself, art, poetry, my life experiences.

        Honey, you have to stop with this idea that a man is coming to complete you and save you from boredom or unhappiness. It’s a fantasy. YOU have to be happy first. It sounds like you’re not happy, so you have to work on that.

        Oh, and you also have to work on NOT harassing people. That’d be good, too.

      15. It’s only a fantasy to lesbian-led feminists. To woman, like myself, who have been happily married for 42 years, all I can say is good luck with your “liberated” life because you’ll need it.

      16. I don’t know why you keep assuming I’m a lesbian? You’re jumping to conclusions, sweetie. Being happy before being in a relationship isn’t a fantasy, it’s smart.

      17. I don’t! But, I do know that lesbians are leading the feminist parade. That’s why it always shocks me that normal heterosexual females would buy their line of crap. There’s nothing wrong with finding personal happiness but finding someone to share it with is the icing on the cake. Don’t deny yourself that experience because art, friends etc. will not change your diapers when you are old, sightless and sick. Only your husband will be willing to care for you when everyone and everything else has abandoned you.

      18. Okay, where do you get the idea that only lesbians fought for equal rights? And secondly, what do you have against lesbians anyway? Someone’s sexual orientation is completely irrelevant.

        Finding a person to love is great. However, my family wouldn’t abandon me if I got married. And there’s no guarantee my potential husband would be alive when I’m old anyway. So there goes that theory. I would most likely be in some sort of care with people paid to take care of me in old age. So what do you know? I don’t have to have a husband to be saddled with that job.

      19. No their sexual orientation means EVERYTHING. For homosexuals it colors their entire view of the world. And as a result, they hate Christian heterosexuals and their priorities. As far as paid care. It sucks. If you are without a family and especially money, you are doomed to state care. And without family to protect you, you will spend your final years in a puddle of piss.

      20. You sound like you’re just homophobic, which is very sad. I’m sorry you’re narrow-minded views make you feel that someone’s sexual orientation is something that any of your business, when in reality it’s not.

        Getting married just so that you can depend on them to live as long as you and take care of you is not only a lot of pressure for that person, but is also a selfish reason to get married. You should marry for love, not free care when you’re old.

      21. Let’s be honest. Neither of us knows whether Rebecca is nasty or not. My view, is that she is polite and courteous on her blog and others. I’ve read her exchange on a religious blog, and she conducts an exemplary conversation with someone of a different opinion. I don’t know what dictionary you are using but I suggest you change it, because it’s lacking regarding ‘nasty’.

      22. That’s QUITE the generalization. So any man or woman who thinks the “advice” was bogus is a “nasty bitch”? So the thousands of people who commented and disagreed with his post are just “nasty bitches”? Hm, that’s probably just a teensy bit inaccurate.

      23. Thank you so much! This means a lot. And I agree. I don’t think I’m “nasty” at all. I like conversation, but it would help if the peeps no we’re conversing with didn’t call me a “nasty bitch.” That might help. 🙂

  15. You’ll end up like me. Cement between your brains according to KQ and a shrivelled up old woman acc to sailordale. Alternatively you could end up happy with your life and a man who loves you. Most unlikely, you naughty young feminist. Go do three Hail Marys or something 😉

  16. Why on earth do you insist on talking down to this blog host? It is totally disrespectful. If you are going to discuss, feminism, religion, whatever, why not take a leaf out of her book and engage politely? Has she abused you?

    As for the waves of feminism. Are you seriously telling me women going on hunger strike, chaining themselves to railings and committing suicide were not considered radical at the time?

    Defining feminism in waves is unhelpful. Some of us, clearly not you, want to eliminate inequality and see everyone treated equally. What’s wrong with that?

    1. A round of applause! Well said! 🙂

      I completely agree with everything you said. KQ came out of nowhere to call me names and say that anyone who is a feminist is a “radical, second-wave lesbian.” I also agree that it’s not helpful to define feminism in waves. Feminism has many ideologies, and most feminists are simply asking for equality. Simple as that.

      There is nothing wrong with equality.

      1. That’s what doesn’t make any sense to me. I wouldn’t have thought I was “radical” because I’m actually a pretty laid back person for the most part. But according to KQ, I’m a “radial, second-wave, lesbian, nasty bitch feminist.” So there’s that…

  17. So I reckon with all these ‘do nots’ the only people men can marry are … men. But doesn’t the bible have something against that, too? Celibacy is all that’s left then. He can be my guest.
    Have a prophet-able day – The False Prophet

      1. I wonder what kind of woman he is married to. She must be very dull and plain. Anytime. I will be reading more of your work. Keep on blogging in a free world. – The False Prophet

      2. You’re probably right. I just can’t imagine someone actually believing his “advice” to be reasonable. It’s just crazy to me. Thank you, I’m glad you’ll be reading more. 🙂

  18. Interesting blog AND comments section.

    Anyway the pastor is wrong about women even from a biblical perspective:

    “There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither slave nor free, there is no male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.” – Galatians 3:28

    Obviously there were still actual Jews and Greeks, slaves and freemen, and males and females, but as far as the church goes these distinctions do not exist. Men and women are different, but complementary.
    I know very few Christian women who have an interest in theology as compared to men, but those who do and are active blogging are some of the best. It wouldn’t be wise or beneficial to the church to deny them that option.

    I wouldn’t be with a feminist myself (wouldn’t want a relationship like our last conversation 🙂 ), but my current girlfriend is an unbeliever. The pastor’s assertion that God’s command to Israel to not marry outside of the nation in the Old Testament should be translated into the relationship believers in the New Testament is deeply flawed. Not least because it conflicts with the apostle Paul:

    “To the rest I say (I, not the Lord) that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he should not divorce her. If any woman has a husband who is an unbeliever, and he consents to live with her, she should not divorce him. For the unbelieving husband is made holy because of his wife, and the unbelieving wife is made holy because of her husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy.” – 1 Corinthians 7:12-14

    It was because of this that I have no problem being in a relationship with unbelievers. Besides, where I like everyone (including everyone in my family) is an unbeliever. If I was to hold out for a Christian girl I’d be waiting some time. Nevermind a Christian girl who also happens to share my more “unorthodox” beliefs haha.

    1. Thanks for commenting! I do agree that the “pastor” is strict and unrealistic about only dating people who are believers. I think that as long as the two people involved have similar views, then that’s all that matters.

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